Can you name your great grandparents?

[Pat (Friend) Thompson]

Family of Julia Frantz:

1860 Maryland census, Allegany County, Selbysport.

Rebecca Frantz, 40, Farmer, $700/$122 born MD (1820)
William, 24, Farmer, born MD
Wesley, 19, Farmer, born MD
Perry, 18, Farmer, born MD
(next page - same household)
Joseph 16, Farmer, born MD
George, 14, born MD
Julia, 13, born MD

[trkingmomoe]

Dear Pat,
From what I have found that Charles was born 1853 to Abraham Hoff and Huldah Elisabeth Shipley in Maryland. He died in 1920. I found this off of a family tree on a internet site. I have no records. This was something someone else was working on. Also on this tree Abraham was born 1804 in Alleygany Co Maryland and died 1862 in Maryland. His parents was Fredrick Hoff( b.1774 d. 1855) and Barbara Clemmer (about1775-1840) The tree listed my grandfather Hanwalt C Hoff and his two wifes. Bertha Fike and Icie D Modispaugh. It also listed Rosalie Ellen Friend as Hanwant's mother. It did not list any brothers or sisters. I have been following some threads from a Pat who lives in Cal. that is my dad's(Wade Denzil Hoff) brother's( Erman Hoff) daughter. That is how I found this site. She and I have never met but I know we are cousins because I remember her dad. I have no pictures of my dad's family. I don't think he ever had any. Samuel could have been a brother to Charles or a cousin. Then again my information could be wrong because this information is not from my direct research. I am just started out on this a few months ago helping my sister-in-law with this. Janet

[Pat (Friend) Thompson]

Janet, Sorry I don't have any information for the names you just posted. Hopefully someone else will find your post and be able to help.

[theresaneff]

Great Grandparents were Willis T. Friend and Emma Pritchett. Willis was born on 20Mar1845 in West Virginia. He died 17Oct1913 in Kennett, MO. Know as Rev. Willis Tecumchie Friend.

My Grand Father was one of nine children - Roy Lawrence Friend b:5Nov1888 Springfield MO. d:21Apr1959, Greenville MS.

Roy and his Brother Grover lived side by side most of their lives. In fact they married Lucy L. York and Dolly York of McMinn County TN.

My Dad was Roy Lee Friend - youngest of 7 children. b:12Apr1927, Cruthersville MO. d: 6Nov2003, Dickinson Tx

I am Theresa Kay Friend Neff - one of three - b: 23Jan1954

My great delemia is to find proof of Wills' middle name. I found a census record that equates a Willis Thompson Friend with the same siblings as Willis Tecumschie Friend. My dad and his older sister swore to me that their Grandfather's middle name was Tecumschie and the census taker was wrong.

[marcia dobson]

pat said:

Marcia,
I can place Isaac "Hardin" VanSickle and wife Rebecca Davis.

I have some information for the Phillippi line that lived for awhile in Friendsville MD.

Missouri Savage was first married to J. W. Phillips and second she married William Henry Harrison Friend.

I don't have Sarah Phillippi in my files but I will try to help if I can.

Can you give me some dates and the locations that might have?

[marcia]

Yes, Thanks-

RE: Sarah Phillippi
1870 census: Daniel Phillippi 45
Catherine 41
Derrick 21
Aaron 19
Louisa 16
Martha 14
Levi 11
Sarah 7
Austin 5
Calvin 1

Re: Isaac Hardin Vansickel

I have 1860 census listing Isaac H b.1835 and (Rebecca) Louisa b. 1840 in Alleghany,MD
with children Jefferson 4 and Susana 2.
By 1870 census they have added Ellsworth (William E)1861 Henry H 1862 Lucinda 1865
and Virginia 1868 and still in Alleghany Md Selbysport Post
By 1880 they moved to Somerset PA
Where Henry H met Sarah Phillippi

**** Before 1860 is where it gets confusing for me with the info I have been able to locate.

Sickel Hill, Garrett MD , and Blooming Rose Md. I am assuming are all in the same area as Friendsville? These places keep coming up

For parents of Isaac Hardin Vansickel (1835 MD) I have: David Vansickel 1796 Md
Catherine Hardin 1800 DE
* Catherine being second wife after Deborah Enlow

Parents for David Vansickel (1796 MD) Louis Vansickel 1776
Rachel Enlow
* I'm not sure if accurate-working on this

Would you possibly know under what circumstances a man would take a second wife back then when the first wife is still living? It seems odd of that happening back then . I have found 1st wife Deborah Enlow living with eldest son John much later in her life.

I have more specific information collected, but I'm a bit un-organized at present.
Thanks so much for the reply
Marcia

[Pat (Friend) Thompson]

"Indian Blood" by Evelyn Olsen, p. 155
Early in her life Sarah Anne had an unusual adventure-a journey in a market basket. In 1823 her grandmother, Elizabeth Frazee Enlow, carrying the basket with its treasure in front of her, rode to Maryland from Belmont County, Ohio. Mrs. Enlow had gone to the western state to be with her daughter Deborah, at the time of childbirth. The daughter had died, and the baby, at six weeks of age, was brought by the brave grandmother the long ride home over the National Road.
The child's father, David Van Sickle, the second, moved back to Maryland later, when business opportunities there increased. By that time he had married Catherine Harden, sister to Andrew Friend's wife, (Magog) and the families saw a good deal of each other. The two Harden sister were remembered as wearing white linen kerchiefs over their dresses, a distinctive touch in the locality. The peak of the kerchiefs reached down their backs and down to their full gathered white aprons in front.
Now seventeen years have passed since the ride from Ohio, and Sarah Ann had come of marriageable age."

Deborah Enlow died in Belmont Co., OH in July 1823; at least to the best of my knowledge.

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I can't tell you an exact location but I do believe it to be located just outside Friendsville, MD, as it Blooming Rose. Many residents of Friendsville have chosen Blooming Rose Cemetery as their final resting place (past and present).

[Pat (Friend) Thompson]

I list Isaac Hardin VanSickle b. Mar 15 1835 as the child of David VanSickle and Catherine Harden/Hardin. I show Isaac as married to Rebecca Louise Davis.

VanSickle is not my direct line so I have little information about this family.


I have this note for the VanSickle line and I show Isaac's wife as Sophia Unknown.

Pioneer Families of Garrett County Maryland by Charles Hoye, p. 548

Louis Vansickle, fifth of the pioneer brothers, settled on Sickle Hill, over which passes the State line west of Sand Spring (Fearer).
His house is said to have been on the State line; in the Maryland census roll of 1810 hi is listed as head of a family of four. We do not know his wife's name, but some of their children were: Zachariah, David, Sophia and Betsy. Louis and his wife were said to be buried on the Sickle Hill farm. Louis Vansickle was a friend of Meshack Browning. They often hunted together.

[marcia]

Pat-
Even though VanSickle is not in your direct line,the information you have passed on to me has been so very helpful-Thank You.

I had Deborah Enlow as d.1876 (not 1823) in Belmont,OH -

I also had her listed as living with eldest son John much later in life.

I also had her listed as being a member of Joshua M. Friend household / mother in law /age 82 in the 1880 census found at :

familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/f/r/i/James-A-Friend/GENE5-0001.html

(This man's genealogy site has so much information on this particular line - I recommend it to any one researching Vansickle )

**Your book excerpt makes so much more sense than what I had come across-Thanks.

The Book "Indian Blood" I have come across before. Yet "Pioneer Families of Garrett County MD "I hadn't. Thanks for that info as well. I would love to be able to access either one on-line. Do you know if this is possible??

I have a Sara Ann Vansickle b. 1823 Ohio Parents David and Deborah Enlow Vansickle as being married to Joshua Monroe Friend. Would you happen to know off hand if this is correct?

Thanks Again-
MARCIA

[Pat (Friend) Thompson]

Deborah Enlow who died 1876 – you said she has a son named John, so would you know her maiden name? It appears to me she would be Deborah Unknown Enlow.

Deborah Enlow VanSickle died when her daughter Sarah Ann VanSickle was born. Thus the date of death for this Deborah is given as 1823. Remember the grandmother went to Ohio and brought the child back to Friendsville MD………Saran Ann VanSickle married Joshua Friend

1880 Garrett County Maryland census, page 1, ED #2, June 1, 1880
4-4
Friend,
Joshua M., 62, farmer OH MD MD
Sarah A., 57, wife, OH __ DE b. July 8 1823 d. Sept 16 1906 buried Steele Cemetery, Friendsville, MD
Hattie, 15, Daughter, MD OH OH
Delia A., 13, Daughter, MD OH OH
Sarah, 82, Mother -I-L DEL MD __
This mother in law is Sarah Harden born 1798.
On obvious error on the part of the enumerator (should read Mother) has left us with much confusion.

Can you post the details of where you find Deborah Enlow VanSickle living with her son John and the exact date please?

Joshua M. Friend was the eldest son of Andrew and grandson of Joseph Friend, who for many years lived on a farm on the east side of the river and adjoining the site of the present town of Friendsville, and who died at his home there about 57 years ago.

Joshua was born in Belmont county, Ohio, November 20, 1818. While a young man he spent several years as a school teacher. He afterward learned the stone mason trade at which he worked for some years. He was married on December 24, 1840 to Miss Sarah A. Vansickle, since which he has lived either at or on a farm near the town of Friendsville.

He was the father of nine children, three of whom died in the early life and six are still living, namely Reese E., David A., Katie M., Hattie, Rufus and Adelia. David A. pastor of the M.E. Church in Friendsville at this time and Rufus has his home in Arkansas, where he has resided for the past eighteen years, and all the other children live within the bounds of Garrett County. In addition to the children there remains an aged widow to morn the loss of the departed.

For the past twelve years the subject of this sketch has been a great sufferer. His disease was in his feet and for nearly a dozen years he was never able to leave his room. The last few days of his life were marked with the most intense suffering. He died July 30, 1902, at 4 a.m., aged 83 years, 8 months and 10 days.

The funeral services were conducted by Rev. H. E. Friend, of Cranesville charge, and the remains were laid to rest in the family graveyard on the old home place, where they await the Archangel's call in that great day.

Both books should be available from your local library. Indian Blood by Evelyn Guard Olsen (out of print) 1967 Library of Congress Catalog Card Number 66-24419

Pioneer Families of Garrett County Maryland by Charles E. Hoye. 1988 ISBN 0-9621074-0-9. This book can still be purchased at the Garrett Co. Historical Society, P O Box 28, Oakland, MD 21550

[marcia]

Thank you for your reply.

I was refering to Deborah Enlow Vansickle-my error. The dod (1876) was from the web site I referenced. I also had 1876 from a genealogy tree I had found that as I look back on ,isn't as complete as the website.
**-Thank you for the correct date of death as 1823 and story from the book excerpt.

The John I refered to would be eldest son of David & Deborah.

I have listed as children of David Vansickle (1796 MD) and
Deborah Enlow (1799 MD)

John Vansickle b. Sept 8 1817
d. 1894 Garrett MD
Mary Vansickle b. 1819
Elizabeth Vansickle b. 1821
Sarah Anne Vansickle b.1823 Belmont,OH

With second wife Catherine Hardin (1800 DE) ,which is my direct line, I have found 7 additional Vansickle children I believe to be accurate.

Deborah 1824 Nancy 1829 Catherine 1831
Maria 1833 Isaac Hardin 1835 Lydia 1837
David Harrison 1845


I am extremely new to Genealogy research. I have accumulated bits of information that I jotted down or printed out , before I figured out what I was doing. Now I am in the process of organizing and fitting my "puzzle Pieces" together . Some things that weren't in my direct line were noted for future reference , but the completed record was not always saved-only bits of information. The reference to Deborah Enlow Vansickle living later in life with eldest son John Vansickle unfortunately falls into this catagory- I know I have it-but I can't put my finger on it. My daughter and I even had a discussion reguarding why one would re-marry in that time period when the first wife hadn't passed on.

When I do come upon it again, I will forward it on.-Lesson learned.

Thank you again for your information-you have been a great help.

-MARCIA
* I have checked on the books-Thanks

[Pat (Friend) Thompson]

VanSickle is not going to be my strong suit but I have:
John VanSickle b. Sept 8 1817 in MD d. June 17 1894 in Garrett Co. Maryland m. Rachel VanSickle, daughter of Zachariah VanSickle II and Susannah Markley.

Mariane "Polly" VanSickle b. June 9, 1819 OH m. Solomon Frey


Elizabeth VanSickle b. Apr 8 1821 (probably MD) d. Feb 2 1896 m. Andrew Ringer b. 1825 VA d. 1895

Sarah Ann (I have given you that information).
I also list seven children for Sarah Hardin and David VanSickle.

If you find the information for David's first wife living after his marriage to Sarah Hardin I would like to hear about it. Everyone's genealogy is open to change - even mine.

[lucyfriend]

thank you Theresa,now i know my great grandparents
i am now looking into grandmother Lucy parents

[Pat (Friend) Thompson]

For Janet: I haven't had much luck finding your Huff line but I didn't find this today.
1900 Garrett County, Maryland, Friendsville-Selbysport District
Hanwalt C. Hoff, HH, b. Apr. 1874, 26, married 11 mos. MD MD MD
Isie D., wife, Apr. 1881, 19, married 11 mos. MD VA VA

[Pat (Friend) Thompson]

I show James Murray, son of Joseph Murray and Ailcy Friend.
Ailcy the d/o William Curtis Friend and Elizabeth Grimes.
Both William and Elizabeth, I show, as born in Ohio and died in Missouri.

Sarah Ann Friend (wife of James Murray) I show as d/o William Friend and Mary Polly Landreth.

If this is incorrect, I would appreciate correction and additions would be appreciated also. Pat